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Sunday, March 18th 2018, 1:39pm

Plussing System of GF!

Hey GF,

actually everyone know and guess ppl already complained but today you have crossed a new line of this +ing system.

after spending thousands of dias to + the weapon higher, it reached once +27 after that it dropped down to +21 and the highest it was possible again is 24 on again 40 or 60 yewels !

i definitely wont aggree with this and with your +ing system and the "LUCK" it has in the game.

this is srsly only a scamming of the ppl, i dont care to invest money in the game, i do, but THIS is NOT exceptable.

i have managed to + the weapon back to 24 but im not agreeing with this and i want a compensation of spending thousands of dias and real money into +ing the weapon which is dropping and failing all the time cause of YOUR system.
specially when you manage to rais the +ing for 1 and after you managed, it failed and dropped again 1 or 2 times and this all the time.

cant tell you how often the +ing of the weapon dropped to 21 again !

I srsly insist on a compensation from you.

waiting your answer ASAP. X(

BR

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Sunday, March 18th 2018, 2:38pm

Sad to read this but it is the reality even with thousands of euros spent your item can be worse than it was before and this has been one of the biggest reason players left the game .

As long as players buy these nothing will change.

We have over the years all said we are unhappy without result.

GF does not really listen to the community, cause they want to make money ofc which is understandable fully since a company.

But they don't seem to realize that players get angry and stop buying and stops playing. So there is less and less buying this and soon will be just a handful left.

The server merges doesn't happen cause there are too many players really around do they?

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Tuesday, March 20th 2018, 6:13pm

That is just stupid.

The whole plussing system is outdated and insanely priced. They should do a total shift, change the whole dynamic between ingame shop, normal jewels and ruby jewels. For instance:

- replace the fail-jewels from the ingame NPC with the "normal" jewels from dia-shop
- replace the "normal" jewels from dia-shop with the perfect jewels from ruby-shop
- remove all jewels from ruby-shop or insert only the +16 perfect jewels

Prices should not change and if they are changed, they should be lowered. This is my little suggestion, which I'm sure is not going to be implemented.
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Tuesday, March 20th 2018, 6:54pm

Half the issue is the lack of perfect stones in the shop for 12/16/20. This is the main reason its super expensive. Dropping 19/18/19/18 repeatedly pushes the price up massively. At least if perfects were around the cost would be lessened.

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Tuesday, March 20th 2018, 10:17pm

+20 dropping is the problem i have +23 wep +19 +22 rings, ofc if all of them were +25 i would get %20 or so more dmg but i believe i still hit fine

the fact that jewels have max +30 doesnt mean your items have to be +30 less than that works just fine dont waste dias to get tiny improvement

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Wednesday, March 21st 2018, 4:51am

This plus an ugly amount of math results in:

data


Used Gems:
+0-+5: Star Jewel - Elven
+5-+6: Perfect Star Jewel - Elven
+6-+12: Advanced Star Jewel - Elven
+12-+16: Enhanced Star Jewel - Elven
+16-+20: Tempered Star Jewel - Elven
+20-+30: Infinite Star Jewel

Plus
Name
Count/Price €
Diamond
Succesrate
+12Star Jewel - Elven29.76107.1256.09%
^Advanced Star Jewel - Elven13.51202.71-
^Perfect Star Jewel - Elven0.790.00-
^Sum10.33€309.83-
+16Star Jewel - Elven32.17115.8150.37%
^Advanced Star Jewel - Elven16.49247.33-
^Enhanced Star Jewel - Elven10.09756.42-
^Perfect Star Jewel - Elven0.870.00-
^Sum37.31€1119.55-
+20Star Jewel - Elven34.03122.5051.00%
^Advanced Star Jewel - Elven18.99284.89-
^Enhanced Star Jewel - Elven13.621021.53-
^Tempered Star Jewel - Elven10.156081.56-
^Perfect Star Jewel - Elven0.930.00-
^Sum250.32€7510.48-
+22Infinite Star Jewel2.95292.3850.04%
^Star Jewel - Elven34.34123.61-
^Advanced Star Jewel - Elven19.43291.38-
^Enhanced Star Jewel - Elven14.31072.49-
^Tempered Star Jewel - Elven11.076632.20-
^Perfect Star Jewel - Elven0.940.00-
^Sum280.37€8412.06-
+24Infinite Star Jewel16.521635.0550.7%
^Star Jewel - Elven35.32127.14-
^Advanced Star Jewel - Elven20.84312.57-
^Enhanced Star Jewel - Elven16.681251.35-
^Tempered Star Jewel - Elven14.698799.94-
^Perfect Star Jewel - Elven0.970.00-
^Sum404.16€12126.05-
+26Infinite Star Jewel69.196850.2850.87%
^Star Jewel - Elven36.05129.79-
^Advanced Star Jewel - Elven21.93328.99-
^Enhanced Star Jewel - Elven18.751406.00-
^Tempered Star Jewel - Elven18.4911073.59-
^Perfect Star Jewel - Elven1.000.00-
^Sum659.56€19788.66-
+28Infinite Star Jewel279.7527695.1750.3%
^Star Jewel - Elven36.13130.06-
^Advanced Star Jewel - Elven22.05330.69-
^Enhanced Star Jewel - Elven18.981423.16-
^Tempered Star Jewel - Elven18.9811366.27-
^Perfect Star Jewel - Elven1.000.00-
^Sum1364.71€40945.35-
+29Infinite Star Jewel559.6455404.1650.08%
^Star Jewel - Elven36.13130.06-
^Advanced Star Jewel - Elven22.05330.69-
^Enhanced Star Jewel - Elven18.981423.16-
^Tempered Star Jewel - Elven18.9811366.31-
^Perfect Star Jewel - Elven1.000.00-
^Sum2288.25€68654.38-
+30Infinite Star Jewel1120.58110937.2450.00%
^Star Jewel - Elven36.13130.06-
^Advanced Star Jewel - Elven22.05330.69-
^Enhanced Star Jewel - Elven18.981423.16-
^Tempered Star Jewel - Elven18.9811366.31-
^Perfect Star Jewel - Elven1.000.00-
^Sum4139.17€124187.46-



P.S.: I have way more data than this, but for now i won't make the calculator public.
The calculations are based on Markov Chains.
The € Prices are without any sales. I used the raw prices of 1 Weapon-Gem.
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Wednesday, March 21st 2018, 10:40am

They should add an item in shop so the next jewel used cannot make it drop (but still can fail of course). It would cost 99 dias each at least.


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Wednesday, March 21st 2018, 11:03am

My perfect jewel +6 for armor lvl 70 failed once...what about it? Any smartass have math table for it? ^_^
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Wednesday, March 21st 2018, 12:05pm

+20 dropping is the problem i have +23 wep +19 +22 rings, ofc if all of them were +25 i would get %20 or so more dmg but i believe i still hit fine
Thats true, I spent almost 8k dias just to plus two accesories from +16 to +20 yesterday. Thats just crazy overpriced -.-

Most of my gear i don't even try to go over +16. If we could get perfect stones in IS I probably would plus all +20 and i would try to get at least +23, so at the end i would spend the same or more dias and I would be happy to do it and not pissed like I'm now.
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Wednesday, March 21st 2018, 8:04pm

Simply put, spending real money shouldn't have the chance to make your gear worse.
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Wednesday, March 21st 2018, 9:16pm

They should add an item in shop so the next jewel used cannot make it drop (but still can fail of course). It would cost 99 dias each at least.

Simply put, spending real money shouldn't have the chance to make your gear worse.
good suggestion and good reason (why) have to remove "drop" from jewels
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Wednesday, March 21st 2018, 9:41pm

and as i see these GAMEFORGE PPL are really too lame and as it looks like to lazy to reply to any comment which are the players posting.

this is a really really bad support for Gameforge! even they cant say anything for 3 days now.
i just think, if i would work like these ppl do, i believe ive already got fired from my job.
as bad as their support ist.
im not sure, do the bosses know how you guys are working ? (GF ppl?)
or maybe we should go directly to them?


there is also a other possiblity i would say.
why the hell are there +30 stones from 20?
why cant they make + 25 stones and at least +26 up to 30 ?
so you can + 25 fix as they have made it with +12 and + 16 and +20 stones.

and now it is suddenly from + 20 to +30, this is just greedy.

still looking forward to hear something from the GF ppl.

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Thursday, March 22nd 2018, 12:13am

Gameforge try to match their pace of responses with Runewaker bug fixes.

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Thursday, March 22nd 2018, 1:20pm

Hey GF,

actually everyone know and guess ppl already complained but today you have crossed a new line of this +ing system.

after spending thousands of dias to + the weapon higher, it reached once +27 after that it dropped down to +21 and the highest it was possible again is 24 on again 40 or 60 yewels !

i definitely wont aggree with this and with your +ing system and the "LUCK" it has in the game.

this is srsly only a scamming of the ppl, i dont care to invest money in the game, i do, but THIS is NOT exceptable.

i have managed to + the weapon back to 24 but im not agreeing with this and i want a compensation of spending thousands of dias and real money into +ing the weapon which is dropping and failing all the time cause of YOUR system.
specially when you manage to rais the +ing for 1 and after you managed, it failed and dropped again 1 or 2 times and this all the time.

cant tell you how often the +ing of the weapon dropped to 21 again !

I srsly insist on a compensation from you.

waiting your answer ASAP. X(

BR



Thank you for your and other following reports. I am really sorry to see these complains and since it is Item Shop related problem i could only forward these reports to the relevant people. Currently i am preparing a detailed feedback report which includes each and every complain from you and i will try to bring you an answer from the team as soon as possible.

Thank you for your understanding...

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Wednesday, March 28th 2018, 8:08pm

Hey GF,

actually everyone know and guess ppl already complained but today you have crossed a new line of this +ing system.

after spending thousands of dias to + the weapon higher, it reached once +27 after that it dropped down to +21 and the highest it was possible again is 24 on again 40 or 60 yewels !

i definitely wont aggree with this and with your +ing system and the "LUCK" it has in the game.

this is srsly only a scamming of the ppl, i dont care to invest money in the game, i do, but THIS is NOT exceptable.

i have managed to + the weapon back to 24 but im not agreeing with this and i want a compensation of spending thousands of dias and real money into +ing the weapon which is dropping and failing all the time cause of YOUR system.
specially when you manage to rais the +ing for 1 and after you managed, it failed and dropped again 1 or 2 times and this all the time.

cant tell you how often the +ing of the weapon dropped to 21 again !

I srsly insist on a compensation from you.

waiting your answer ASAP. X(

BR



Thank you for your and other following reports. I am really sorry to see these complains and since it is Item Shop related problem i could only forward these reports to the relevant people. Currently i am preparing a detailed feedback report which includes each and every complain from you and i will try to bring you an answer from the team as soon as possible.

Thank you for your understanding...
yoh, hey ?

how long are they waiting for a reply?

waiting since last week.

kinda lazy folks?

BR.

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Thursday, March 29th 2018, 4:51pm

they need to lower item cost 2 10 dia

and add perfect for more dia 100-200


till then maybe will be better for pep buying dias and + 20 items even armor access wings


19 -1 xd :cursing: 600 dia for -

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Friday, March 30th 2018, 12:35am

Or just make lv100 +12-16 only possible to buy with dias or something. And again rest +16-20 -> with tokkens. Anyhow this plussing system is ruining the whole game so please do something about it. Even there's only very few replies, the whole Rommunity stands behind this.
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Friday, March 30th 2018, 10:21am

Yeah, this is also my oppinion. I'm currently preparing to equip my scout, and my biggest worry is the plussing of my crossbow from +16 to +20. Because i'm a student and haven't got the money to buy lots of diamonds, i'll have to farm lots of gold to buy the jewels. And the biggest problem in my eyes is: they can even fail. Just imagine: one of those jewels is worth 25€ with the regular price for diamonds. Pay 25€ for something, what can even fail, is nearly scam, in my opinion. This has to change!


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Friday, March 30th 2018, 7:20pm

...And the biggest problem in my eyes is: they can even fail. Just imagine: one of those jewels is worth 25€ with the regular price for diamonds. Pay 25€ for something, what can even fail, is nearly scam, in my opinion. This has to change!
Not only it can fail, it usually DROPS.
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Friday, March 30th 2018, 7:22pm

Spent 16 +20 wep stones on a wep about a month ago(9584 dias), wep ended at +18. Not planning to change wep anytime soon because of it.