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Friday, March 30th 2018, 11:27pm

i made a wep a month ago too no fail 12-20, and i'm not the only one who had this but also many ppl spent +15 jewel between 16-20 something affects plus rate i guess maybe the position of moon?

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Sunday, April 1st 2018, 2:44pm

I think its zodiac sign...
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Sunday, April 1st 2018, 5:36pm

thats srsly such a shame of the GF and also for the GM's...
they still cant reply.

when you have a look on this shit +ing here in this game.

the first 10 yewels: 1 raise, 7 fails and 2 dropps.

that is really only a scamming way of Gameforge!
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Wednesday, April 4th 2018, 7:40pm

Plussing system with so high rates of drop/fail is the only reason cause I stopped to buy plus, because it works like a slot machine, if you are lucky works and you get item plussed if not you just lose money. I always hate gambling so... If i spent and invest my money I wanna see result not a "if you are lucky you get it".
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Saturday, April 14th 2018, 7:33pm

Do you realize that noone buying your diamonds because your plussing system fkin sux?!?!?
Can you fix this shet GAMEFORGE?!?!??????????????????????????
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Thursday, April 19th 2018, 11:46pm

Best answer REMOVE THE DROP SISTEM FIRST that is a joke pay gold to drop the +ing on items
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Sunday, April 22nd 2018, 2:30am

Do you realize that noone buying your diamonds because your plussing system fkin sux?!?!?
Can you fix this shet GAMEFORGE?!?!??????????????????????????
Yeah imagine what nice Bmw u could get in monthly payment instead of investing it in this greedy money grabbing game
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Sunday, April 22nd 2018, 4:03pm

And the BMW you can actually sell and regain something if you get tired of it :D

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Monday, April 23rd 2018, 12:53pm

Hahahaha veeeeeeeeryyyy funny u2!
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Saturday, April 28th 2018, 6:19pm

+20 Jewels price is insanely high ... for this price they have to be "perfect" !!?
Decent price for +20 jewels can be:
100 dias for Accessory
120 dias for Armor
150 dias for Wing
200 dias for Weapon
Another suggestion:
"Jewels in ArcaneTransmutor"

Make posible to transform 5 "normal" Jewels to 1 "Perfect" <=== :love: :love: :love:
in this case can increase +30 jewels price to:
150 dias for Accessory
200 dias for Armor
250 dias for Wing
300 dias for Weapon
But with little better chanse !!!
Example:
After +25 Player can go only "perfect"
For Weapon is 300x5= 1500 dias per + level
7500 dias for +25 to +30
or 3750 dias for +25 to +30 accessory
This will be Expensive pleasure ... but really possible !

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Monday, April 30th 2018, 4:51pm

A guildie just spent 8k dias to plus his weapon and ended up with +21 and decided to play a other game.

This is not the only one that has done the same and tbh less and less play the game.

If this is not fixed or changed you will no longer have players buying dias.

No other game you can spend thousand of euros and ending up with worse gear than you had before.

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Monday, April 30th 2018, 6:24pm

A guildie just spent 8k dias to plus his weapon and ended up with +21 and decided to play a other game.
our server/community is small so i heard for this case ...
isn't just today ... is regular in fight with "Jewels" we lose lot of players in my case 2 guilds ...
Server Vidar = (SIochain+Smath +Midir) + (Isiltir + Mac) from those 5 servers now we have 1 with 3 guilds that can do runs and 2 guilds over 5k point in SW ....
Lets say before "The Wheel of Destiny" just Siochain HAD 2 time more "Active guilds"
i know probably "the spinning thing" is idea on someone "important" in Gameforge hierarchy ... but is time ot stop and gone :)
Game is too old for that ...
Is time to make it "i buy it i have it"
just make it to BE "i know how much dias cost THIS item from 0 to +30" (5773 dias)
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Monday, April 30th 2018, 10:22pm

I continue to see ppl complains in this thread and my opinion about it was:

Plussing system with so high rates of drop/fail is the only reason cause I stopped to buy plus, because it works like a slot machine, if you are lucky works and you get item plussed if not you just lose money. I always hate gambling so... If i spent and invest my money I wanna see result not a "if you are lucky you get it".


But guys honestly.... I dont think Gf will never change this system for one important reason:

- ppl comes here to complain but at same times ppl continue to buy plus

A guildie just spent 8k dias to plus his weapon and ended up with +21 and decided to play a other game.


So why Gf should change system if ppl will continue to buy it?

Because Gf doenst care about complains cause when you buy plus, you accept that it can drop/fails/raise, it's like a slot machine in a casino, you put coins but if you lose you dont go to admis to complains, or better I never seen ppl to do casino admins to complains about it.
Same system, same logic just a different graphic.

So i'm not gonna defend GF or blame it for this cause everyone can free decide itself what to do.
Sure you can complain but... hows this worth If ppl will continue to buy plus at same time?
I mean ppl started to complain about it years ago, this forum is full of thread with this topic and they never changed it.
If you dont like something in game you can always not buy it cause no one is telling you must do it....
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Tuesday, May 1st 2018, 1:26pm

Simple reason is why people buy this is that it is mandatory for Endgame. Yes sure you can play the game without any plussed gear but not endgame content.

We all play differently some are happy just crafting and doing lower instances that are possible without good gear.

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Tuesday, May 1st 2018, 5:01pm

Honestly for the class I play is not mandatory, I dont know for others class but I plays warmage and healers without get +20+30 my gears and I can easily run endgame content without problems and doing good damage.
(only thing i plussed was few access and wand to +21 for warmage cause i had in my bank since past but I'm not going to buy to max it);
and only problem i have with damage in endgame content is when I lag or when i slack :P cause tired



I just prefer invest gold/dias in stats and tier cleaned T9/T10, but fine if you believe is mandatory :) lke you said we are happy to play different and i guess for you my gears is not endgame enough because i didnt get +30

but remind that for some ppl you arent endgame if you arent top scruti all the time so, doesnt exist a true endgame rule, just diff point of view ^_^
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This post has been edited 2 times, last edit by "Starshine" (May 1st 2018, 6:57pm)


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Tuesday, May 1st 2018, 5:13pm

Honestly only really rings and wep is really worth plussing and could be considered "needed" anything more is just a luxury. Don't forget new ini was done 6 man by Asgard, and 1-4 done with 5 or less ppl, some bosses even without a healer.

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Wednesday, May 2nd 2018, 1:41pm

Honestly only really rings and wep is really worth plussing and could be considered "needed" anything more is just a luxury. Don't forget new ini was done 6 man by Asgard, and 1-4 done with 5 or less ppl, some bosses even without a healer.
we talk about plussing here stick about that , 6 man with + from gm help i think

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Wednesday, May 2nd 2018, 1:54pm

we talk about plussing here stick about that , 6 man with + from gm help i think

preety sure my post was about plussing :thumbup:

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Thursday, May 3rd 2018, 3:18pm

Should stop this discussion really.., plussing hardly matters since it is not needed at all to run any instance. There are tactics for the last 3 instances which you could do with even low gear succesfully. All gear in the server is way better as necessary in the first place non the less the fact that people do not quit because of some lame plussing.

People quit because there is no good/new content. It takes more for people to stay as to wait a year for a new instance to open or wait half a year because a instance is not working as intended and has to be fixed. Make new instances challenging, make some more tactical instances find a balance with it. It isn't that hard to come up with idea's like making a second RT version instance where you more or less have to clear it on bronze level and get that gear to be able to do it in silver for example or a instance which will take a long time to clear, those are the things which create excitement.

Also, I am not sure if the description of +30 Jewels are correct and its able to drop to +20; if so then atleast do these things in a actual patch note and not in hidden maintenances. That's how you screw people over. It probably also would help a lot if they give more explanation to their thought process with surten changes, be more open to your players. Why would you make this or change that, it'll either help people understand or help you with review comments on it to improve it more.

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Thursday, May 3rd 2018, 4:34pm

Liche very fun you say this behind 2x +30 ring and clear all instance by many scout snipe ..i am sry but cant miss this^^